Olds Ambassador Flute Serial Numbers
A c.1962 brochure shows the Normandy 140P at a list price of $179.00. In 1966, the Normandy 140P had a list price of $199.50.
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The bell of an F. Olds trombone, c. 1927, with the trademark 'Golden Bear' and date of the 1912 patent. Olds was a manufacturer of musical instruments founded by Frank Ellsworth (F.E.) Olds in Los Angeles, California in the early 1900s.
Flute Serial Number Lookup
According to Robb, both of these post-WWII serial numbers were obtained from original bills of sale so the horns may have been manufactured earlier than the stated dates. Chronology of Olds s/n reported to me with original owner's firsthand report of a date: • 14,005 Super Olds Trombone produced in May 1942 according to original warranty card • 14,6xx Super Olds Trombone purchased new 'around 1945' for $250 • 14,9xx another Super Olds Trombone purchased new 'around 1945' for $250 • 15,5xx Super Olds trumpet purchased new in 1945 • 18,1xx Super Olds trumpet purchased for $225 from Wurlitzer's in NY in 1946. • 18,1xx Super Olds trumpet purchased in 1946 after returning from WWII • 18,9xx Super Olds Trumpet purchased new in 1946 for $250 • 18,5xx bill of sale dated August 14, 1947 (Robb Stewart) • 20,0xx Super Olds trombone purchased new in 1948, probably made in 1947. Cost was $225 • 22,5xx Super Olds Trumpet was purchased new in 1947 • 20,3xx Olds Standard Trumpet was purchased new 'I guess.in 1948 or 1949' • 20,30x Olds Standard Trumpet seen on ebay with original purchase record from 10/19/49 • 20,5xx Olds Standard Trumpet was purchased new in 1948. • 26,1xx Olds Special trumpet was purchased new in late summer 1947 • 26,0xx Olds Super Recording was purchased new in late 1949 or early 1950 • 27,035 Olds Ambassador, one of the very earliest Ambassadors from 1947 • 31,051 Olds Super trumpet purchased new Nov 12, 1949. Price $229 without case. Original buyer traded in a Martin S/N 165183 plus $125 for the Super.
I have four Olds horns now and they do have shiny slides. I'm not sure what Olds did to the raw brass on the slides to make them shiny but that is probably normal and not necessarilly lacquer. I'm guessing they plated the slides with something. There isn't enough clearance to get the slides into their matching tubes if there is lacquer on the slides.
In 1966, the Normandy 10 carried a list price of $189.50 Serial number analysis shows that the Model 10 remained in production until at least 1967. NORMANDY 5P The mid-to-late 1950's also saw the introduction of the Model 5P.
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Olds Flute Serial Numbers
Olds and Son Serial Numbers The following analysis is based on some of the serial-number-related highlights from Rob Stewart's article, plus reports I have received from original owners with serial#'s and year purchased. It is important to note that the serial number sequence during this period nclude alto horns, mellophones, euphoniums, tubas, and sousaphones. Olds also imported woodwind instruments, but I do not know whether these shared the same serial number sequence. Robb Stewart has further educated me on the status of production during the war: There were few musical instruments made during the war at Olds except for the surprising military order for Olds saxophones. (We do know that serial# 14005 Super trombone was made in May 1942, from the original warranty card, possibly made with on-hand parts that were manufactured prior to the war.) The plant's manufacturing capacity was otherwise devoted to wartime non-musical materials. This means that approximately 14000 horns were made before the war, and postwar production began in the #14xxx to #15000 range. The first serial number from the Robb Stewart article appears in January 1946 with #15066, and then #18501 in August 1947.